Bo Knows Diddley... And So Does Bill
At first, I thought Bill Simmons' college basketball columns would fall into "so terrible, they're awesome" category, a la Ghost Dad or Bibleman (a TV show, starring the guy who played Buddy on Charles In Charge, that comes on every Saturday at 1:00 p.m. on The Bible Network. Do yourself a favor, set the DVR.) Amazingly though, the Simmons columns have transcended that level of awfulness and
can only be classified in the "utter and complete shit" category, a la Leonard Part 6 or anything starring Rosie O'Donnell.
As much as I dislike Simmons, I still acknowledge that his NFL and NBA columns provide some nice insight into the games and often contain some good lines. But the second Simmons gets out of his comfort zone (like when he writes about poker, college basketball, drinking or women), his stuff becomes totally unreadable.
I've made a vow to keep up with his college basketball columns so I can rip on them, but I don't know how much longer I can stomach it. Somebody once left a comment that reading all of a Simmons column in a single sitting is sort of like competing in a hot dog contest against Kobayashi. In theory, it seems like a good idea, but in action it just leaves you feeling nauseous and like you wasted 12 minutes of your life. Yup, these are my readers!!!
A few months back I remember somebody leaving another comment about how Simmons would be serving as the color analyst for two college games this February on ESPNU. I had totally forgotten about this until he mentioned it in the column yesterday and now this sudden college ball love makes sense. Bill Simmons has never written about college basketball and even professed his dislike for the game on a few occasions. I couldn't figure out why he was suddenly interested, until it became clear that he's only doing this so he doesn't sound like a complete moron on ESPNU. Granted, he could watch college basketball 24/7 in a Clockwork Orange-esque setting and he'd still inevitably sound like a moron, but maybe he'll now be less of one. Maybe. All I can say is, the is the first time ever I'll regret not getting ESPNU.
In an ongiong mission to read Bill Simmons' college basketball blather so you don't have to, here are some of the highlights from yesterday:
* Bragging about the amount of ball he's watching
The lede to yesterday's entry read, "I watched three college games (Gonzaga-St. Mary's, Wisconsin-Iowa and Florida-Kentucky) and most of the Oregon-Arizona game on Saturday, as well as Texas-Oklahoma State and the second half of Santa Clara-Gonzaga Monday night." Anybody else wanna bet Simmons is one of those guys who counts how many drinks he has in a night? To be fair, it's probably not hard counting two Malibu Sunrise's, but how absurd is it to recite the exact lineup of games one has watched over the weekend? Just say, "I watched a lot of college basketball this weekend and here are some inaccurate observations."
* Making a common joke
Simmons describes JamesOn Curry as "the troubled guard who's been in college since the early 80s". First of all, I could debate the used of the word "troubled" in referring to Curry but that's not the issue. (While a high school senior in North Carolina, Curry sold weed to an undercover police officer in a sting that netted 50 arrests. Some say the arresting officer, who posed as a teenager, was operating by the book. Others called it entrapment. Either way, most agree Curry got the marijuana from someone else, so it's not like he was Tony Montana Jr.)
The stupider part of the sentence was using the "who's been in college since the early 80s" joke while referring to young JamesOn. Everyone who watches college basketball makes this joke about various players. Jason Kapono, Shane Battier, Eduardo Najara, Gerry McNamara, Darious Songaila, Ilian Evtimov and, currently, Nick Fazekas have all, at one-time or another, been designated as the "he's still in school?!!" guy. But nobody has ever said that about JamesOn Curry. He's a freakin' JUNIOR for crap's sake! I suppose next he'll be asking when Greg Paulus can get his membership to AARP.
* More bragging
On Chase Budinger (who has hyped in this very space last Saturday): "Everyone made a big fuss about him in the preseason because he's also a world-class volleyball player, so it's not like I hadn't heard about him before..." Have you ever heard anybody refer to college basketball's preseason before (except in reference to the preseason polls)? What's next Bill, a 500-word rant on how the umpires always seem to give Duke the calls? At the end of the sentence Simmons assures us that he heard about Chase Budinger a while ago to which... No you didn't.
* Joakim Noah = Chris Paul
I have to give credit where credit is due. Simmons hit this one on the head, as both Noah and Paul are very similar, in that each played college basketball in the United States. Other than that... Not so much. Here's the offending sentence: "Speaking of Noah, I love how his draft stock dropped because he stuck around for an extra season and everyone started picking him apart. Um, didn't we learn from the Chris Paul debacle?"
This excerpt is sort of like one of the appetizer platters that come with nachos, wings, mozzarella sticks, potato skins and mini egg rolls. There's so much good stuff it's almost impossible to know where to dig in. But dig in, I will.
1) Who says Noah's draft stock has slipped? Last year he was the presumptive (note: presumptive) #1 pick in what was called the weakest draft in over a decade. This year he's clearly behind two players (Oden and Durant) who would have been rated higher than him last year too, if not for the NBA's new age-requirements. As for Brendan Wright, who ever trusts mock drafts in February? I can guarantee Andrea Bargnani wasn't atop anybody's board one year ago. And Tyrus Thomas? Bill Simmons hadn't even heard of Tyrus Thomas at this point last season and he ended up going #2! And how can anybody make a mock draft when the most important components of a mock draft - the eligible players and team positioning - won't be known for months? It's sort of like making bets for who will win the 2008 Oscars (I'm looking in your general direction, Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer).
2) Who says Noah is slipping (again, besides idiots making mock drafts)? I'll admit Noah isn't getting much buzz (nor is Florida, which is sort of amazing considering they have only lost two close games and will likely enter March as the favorites to repeat), but nobody says he's slipping.
3) And now, for the Chris Paul comparison. Let's do a little Tale of the Tape:
Joakim Noah, April 2006: Much-buzzed sophomore on a national championship-winning team and likely top-three pick in upcoming NBA Draft, makes announcement that he will stay in school with his teammates to attempt to become the first squad to repeat in 15 years.
Chris Paul, April 2004: ACC Rookie of the Year on an up-and-coming team that will be expected to make a run at the National Title next season makes no announcement that he will return to Wake Forest for his sophomore season, mainly because nobody actually thought he was coming out.
There was hype surrounding Noah after his MOP in the Final Four and he had a big decision to make: Stay in school or wait until 2007, when Oden and Durant would likely be occupying the top two slots (don't let Simmons brainwash you into thinking Durant just came out of nowhere. He would have been a top-five pick if not for the age-minimum). In the end, the allure of staying in school with his buddies was too much and Noah made a decision that nobody can criticize. (Particularly because, with his wealthy parents, he doesn't need money and, less importantly, the NBA's rookie salary structure is set up in such a way that the difference between getting picked second and fifth isn't that big of a deal. In the NFL, highly-drafted players get rich on their first contract. In the NBA, they get rich on their second.) When Noah announced his intention to return to school, it was done at a massive press conference, with the banner headlines following.
On the other hand, Chris Paul wasn't going anywhere after his freshman year at Wake. There was no chatter about it, he wasn't appearing on (valid) mock drafts in February and there was no press conference to announce he was coming back. Everyone just knew he was. Only CP and his family and coaches know for sure, but I'd bet that there was no more than perfunctory talk about going pro after one year in college, if that. There was talk in some circles (probably from losers doing mock drafts in FEBRUARY) but Paul said later, "after my freshman year at Wake Forest, a lot of people asked if I would leave (college) to come out to the NBA early, but I knew I wasn’t ready." Noah (and friends) had a, uh, different reaction.
Lastly, Chris Paul dropped to #4 not because people were questioning his game (he was often referred to as the best PG to enter the NBA since Jason Kidd), but because NBA GMs are among the biggest idiots in sports not named Bill Simmons.
Bogut at #1? Fine. Big men are sexy, I get it. Marvin Williams at #2 to a team that desperately needed a point guard? And you wonder why the Hawks haven't been in the playoffs since Michael and Marcus Vick were holding up lemonade stands with super soakers. And the Jazz took Deron Williams ahead of Paul because they thought his game fit in better with Jerry Sloan. Williams is playing great, but the Jazz still made the wrong pick.
Paul's slippage wasn't the result of holes getting poked in his game, it was the result of stupidity, the same thing that happened to another Wake Forest All-American, current All-Star Josh Howard who dropped to #29 despite winning ACC Player of the Year Award. If I had had this site at that time, you would have probably read 100,000 words about how unbelievable it was to watch the following guys get taken before Howard: Troy Bell, Chris Kaman, Reece Gaines, Mike Sweetney, Dahntay Jones (yes, that Dahntay Jones), six forgeign and high schools guys you've never heard of and Jarvis Hayes (same position, same size, 5% of the talent - can you imagine how great the Bullets would be if they had Josh Howard instead of Jarvis Freakin' Hayes? And to think, if Ernie Grunfeld had been GM at the time, it probably would have happened!) I write about this at least twice a year, but it never ceases to amaze me. Here was Howard, All-American, ACC Player of the Year, a five-tool guy with a great attitude and defined leadership qualities and people were opting to go with Dahntay Jones instead. This is why I cannot stand the NBA.
Oh, and a much better analogy would have been Joakim Noah to Matt Leinart.
* Wanting to change the rule book after two weeks of watching
Simmons thinks the five-foul-and-out rule is too much of an x-factor ("particularly in March Madness" because, presumably, teams foul out more in March? I don't quite get that one) and wants it changed. His suggestion: Make it six fouls for disqualification, but give opposing teams two technical free throws (in addition to whatever free throws they are shooting) whenever someone gets their fifth. Congratulations, New Coke, you've been replaced at the top of the heralded "all-time dumbest ideas" list.
Imagine the following scenario: Duke and Carolina are playing a tight contest, but the Dukies have the ball, and a one-point lead, with 10 seconds left. UNC tries to foul in the backcourt, but Duke quickly gets the ball ahead to Josh McRoberts, who only has Tyler Hansbrough between him and the basket. Hansbrough, with four fouls, is forced to quickly foul in order to put McRoberts on the line. But, oops! That was Hansbrough's fifth, so now the Dukies get four free throws; they hit three of them and take a four-point lead, effectively ending the game.
And that scenario was the first thing that popped into my head. I'm sure there are 500 other ones that would expose how amazingly short-sighted this idea is. (Well put. Short sighted.) NCAA players get one foul per eight minutes, just like in the NBA. Just because coaches are far too cautious in playing a guy with two or three fouls doesn't mean the system is bad, it just means that coaches would rather sit a guy early than being forced to sit him late after a DQ.
* Pre-praising his predictions and predicting how said predictions will cause NBA teams to change their line of thinking.
After discussing a very far-fetched scenario that could result in the Suns getting Noah in the Draft, Simmons separates his shoulder trying to simultaneously rub his own ass while slapping himself on the back: "(By the way, if anyone in Phoenix's front office is reading this right now, they're probably screaming, "Shut up! Shut the hell up! Dammit! He's ruining everything!")
Yes Bill, because the jackasses who read your drivel while on the toilet at work are somehow going to gum up the works for one of the best-run franchises in the NBA. Apparently "yup, these are my readers," no longer means "can you believe how many morons read this?" and now instead means "yup, my readers are NBA superspys that infiltrate opposing organzations and feed them tips about how to covertly acquire last year's Final Four MOP without anybody noticing."
* Confusing "always" with "tonight, the one time I've seen him"
He says he doesn't watch much college basketball, so how can Simmons possibly know Corey Brewer always seems to make 2-3 big plays down the stretch?
* Not understanding the CBS rights package
When discussing inevitable March suplots, Simmons warns us to watch out for various reaction shots of Alando Tucker's mother on "every network." Yes, Bill, I'll pay keen attention to what FOX and ABC are cutting away to during the Tournament, although I'm guessing it will mainly be American Idol and Grey's Anatomy, repectively, shows those networks actually have the rights to. I guess his confusion is understandable, as CBS only received exclusive rights to the NCAA Tournament in 1982.
* Santa Clara Shocker?
While discussing Gonzaga's decline (about two months to late in that department), Simmons tells us to watch out for Santa Clara (don't say he didn't warn us!!!): But here's what WAS shocking: Have you seen Santa Clara yet???? First of all, nobody on the team averages more than 10 points a game and they're 19-7. (Seriously. You can look it up.) Second, they threw a whitewash at Gonzaga for the entire second half. (At one point, I was half-asleep and mistakenly thought I was watching Brunswick Academy battling Rye Country Day in the Fairchester League playoffs.) And third, their two slash-and-kick guards (Brody Angley and Danny Pariseau) look like they're on hiatus from "Maui Fever." Still, they're one of those whole-exceeds-the-sum-of-the-parts teams that could definitely steal the WCC bid next month, then pull off one of those crazy "15-seed over the 2-seed" upsets in Round 1 of the NCAA Tournament when CBS shows their bench jumping up and down like little kids at least 200 times. Don't say I didn't warn you.
How, exactly, would Santa Clara winning the WCC bid be "stealing" it, considering that they currently lead the WCC standings. But let's say they do, indeed, "steal" the bid. How does Simmons possibly figure they'll get a 15-seed in the Tournament? Santa Clara has an RPI of 80, just 16 spots lower than Gonzaga (a team currently seeded #11 in Joe Lunardi's Bracketology). The WCC is also rated 14 out of 32 conferences, meaning, at the minimum, 10 schools would be behind any presumptive WCC Tournament Champion (barring a miracle run by a school like Portland or Pepperdine). At worst, Santa Clara would be a #13 seed if the Tournament started today. At best, they'd be a #11. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Wednesday, February 14, 2007
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FYI
Big Kobayashi fan here and just wanted to let you know that the Nathans 4th of July Hot Dog Eating contest is 12 minutes long.
you forgot to discuss the important role crystals played in the 2003 NBA draft
Thanks for the tip, Hurricane. The sentence has been changed.
As for the crystals, I don't know if I've ever told that story on the blog but, even if I have, it's definitely worth bringing up again.
And Jerry asked a few days ago about whether I was referring to the Wizards as the Bullets as a subtle dig at their current disarray.
The real story, Jerry, is that I am very stubborn and resistant to change. I thought the name-change to Wizards was idiotic and hated that Abe Pollin (whom I like) used the excuse that he was changing the name because of the violence in D.C. That's not why he did it. He did it to sell more jerseys and, in doing so, picked the dumbest name in the NBA.
I also called "CVS" "Peoples" for years and always refer to the old US Air Arena as "The Cap Center". I have never called MCI Center by its new name and still talk about The Jack in reference to FedEx Field.
You da man Chase...Big fan and I don't mean to fact check you....I to refuse to refer to the Bullets as the Wizards...Worst name in professional sports on so many levels.
Have a good one
bill simmons = over paid hack
good college basketball writers = bloggers
bloggers > bill simmons
besides the injustice that is bill simmons getting paid by espn while other better writers go unpaid, what really fries my grits is that bill simmons could be a very good college basketball writer if he had ever bothered to watch games before this season.
Make sure you read Simmons' post today where he (a) pats himself on the back for the great idea to not only increase fouls to 6, but extend the game to 44 minutes for some reason. and he says he would do those if he was "commissioner of college basketball." maybe someone needs to fill bill on the fact that the position doesn't exactly exist and (b) admits that he never, ever watches college bball.
chris whats up its ben plotnick from tally ho.your writing is the only bright spot in an otherwise typical midwestern shitstorm here at kenyon college.espn should give you simmons' job and then boot stuart scott and give you his anchor job, i much prefer your coherent polemics to simmons' idiocy and scotts hideousness. keep up it chris
You know who was in college forever?
Luke Recker. I can't believe you didn't list him...
Simmons was very anti-college ball back in the day when he was still funny. "Just didn't get" March Madness and it didn't compare with the NBA playoffs (all 4 months of them.)
Now he is like a sitcom in year 8. Still kinda funny, but just going through the motions and getting paid for it.
It's funny, everybody rips Bill Simmons. Yet everybody reads Simmons. How long did you spend writing this? You spent all that time dissecting an article by a writer who's so awful he's not even worth reading to begin with? You should maybe get a new hobby.
These are some pretty weak criticisms of the Sportsguy. OMG, he said Preseason! OMG, he claims he's heard of Chase Budinger! That's impossible! And you completely misunderstood the JamesOn Curry joke. He doesn't understand the CBS rights package? How about the highlights of the games on every network? Maybe that's what he was talking about? It's funny how the internet has spawned so many critics with very little valid criticisms. Congratulations, I'm sure ESPN will be offering you a job real soon because you're so brilliant and clearly superior to Simmons.
I'm pretty sure the big east tried the six foul rule back in the alonzo mourning days. Didn't work out so well.
I Love LOVE Bibleman. I love that he's a superhero of great power but only fights evil in this small Midwestern town. I love that he shows up in the middle of the day at church as Bibleman for no reason. I love that he has a readily interchangeable group of helpers that always consists of a girl and the only black guy in town.
As Sports Guy would say, it scores a perfect 100 out of 100 on the Unintentional Comedy Scale.
"Imagine the following scenario: Duke and Carolina are playing a tight contest, but the Dukies have the ball, and a one-point lead, with 10 seconds left. UNC tries to foul in the backcourt, but Duke quickly gets the ball ahead to Josh McRoberts, who only has Tyler Hansbrough between him and the basket. Hansbrough, with four fouls, is forced to quickly foul in order to put McRoberts on the line."
I don't understand this hypothetical. How would Tyler have 4 fouls? Would they be counting fouls from prior games or something?
Let's not forget that the Trust Fund Kid didn't propose extending the game for the 6 fouls until a reader reminded him of the disparity between the NBA and NCAA. His response is "Believe me, I know the math" then he adds the extra time to account for the mistake the first time around. Such a fraud.
You are a pretty pathetic writer. Oh and a bigtime hater. Keep analyzing what other people are doing to get paid (well). You must have a lot free time on your hands. Wow are you a sad case, I honestly feel bad for you..
I have a lot of time on my hands, says the guy who has time to write comments to a 1,500 word blog entry at 2:00 on a Thursday. I'd say that's the pot calling the kettle black, but I don't want you to have to waste time looking up "kettle" in the dictionary.
My only recommendation before ripping on Simmons' college basketball musings is to actually read his explanation of why he's doing this. He makes it known that he's not a huge college guy, but he's purposely flying by the seat of his pants here because of the Celtics' miseries.
The C's are making the draft REALLY matter this year, and therefore Bill now cares about college players, and is trying to learn about them on the fly. Hence is call for help in this week's post.
I mean, good work in breaking down the technicalities between Noah and Paul, but that wasn't his point either. Noah and Paul are both guys who had their draft stock "fall" because they played 'an extra year,' so he's merely pointing out that we shouldn't be discounting Noah.
Keep up the ranting, but perhaps a more realistic take on your 'adversary' could help direct the anger in a more positive direction.
And as for the guy who sarcastically called me "brilliant," how about you look at your own use of the phrase "OMG" before casting stones on intelligence.
Some other criticisms are valid, but not the ones that ask why I'm critiquing Bill Simmons. None of those make sense. Why shouldn't I? He doesn't know what he's talking about and he's clearly influencing others to believe whatever nonsense he's spouting about college basketball. This is what blogs are for, to start a debate that you won't find on sites run by big media. You can disagree all you'd like, but questioning why I, or anyone, would do this is ignorant. Clearly you all read Deadspin; what do you think Will Leitch is doing over there? Is he just accepting that the ESPN Mobile idea is great? Or that Stephen A. Smith is a wonderful basketball analyst? No, he's ripping ESPN for those things, just as I'm doing to Simmons.
This is my blog, you voluntarily came here and read the whole entry. If you don't like it, I'd love to hear why. But mocking the time I spent writing is absurd. You wasted time reading and commenting. According to your logic, this is an even bigger waste of time.
pretty funny. i like simmons, but this was pretty damn funny.
one thing though, i think what he meant by the "15 over a 2 upset" was in reference to santa clara upsetting arizona (or arizona state?) back in the early 90s, as a 15 over a 2. i only remember this b/c my dad picked it in our pool and brings it up every year when we make our picks.
i like simmons, but i think he's lost a step. i agreed with a lot of what you were saying, but it kind of fell apart at the end. the last three bits just seemed like you were filling space. especially the chunk about CBS broadcast rights. i'd wager he just meant in highlight shows. anyway, keep up the work. it's fun to watch people grump and harumph.
of course grumpy guy, like a lot of people i wouldn't even be here if deadpsin hadn't linked you. hate on, brother!
Julius Hodge, 8th year senior. Every list should begin there, and yes, JamesOn Curry is nowhere near it.
I like Simmons for the most part, but what I don't get is why he has to write like he is an expert on something he professes to know very little about and been condescending towards in the past. What would be wrong with just writing like it is the first time you ever saw these guys play, instead of writing like he is some authoritative deity who has deigned to come down to the NCAA and explain to us what we have been watching for months now?
It is painful to hear him try to expertly explain things he is only vaguely familiar with and then back track and make excuses when he gets called on it. If he would just relax and write like he wasn't trying to teach us something, those pieces would be a lot better off.
In one man's opinion, anyways.
"While a high school senior in North Carolina, Curry sold weed to an undercover police officer in a sting that netted 50 arrests. Some say the arresting officer, who posed as a teenager, was operating by the book. Others called it entrapment. Either way, most agree Curry got the marijuana from someone else, so it's not like he was Tony Montana Jr."
Great point. Since he got the weed from someone else, that makes it less serious. I ask you this, doesn't everyone get weed from someone else? Who grows and sells his own weed nowadays? The consequences disallow it to happen. So what's your point?
I think it's funny too that all the people ripping on Chris prefer to remain anonymous.
It doesn't matter if Simmons is writing this "from the seat of his pants" or whatever. When he brags about how influential or brilliant he is, he deserves to be taken down several pegs when he can't even get the basics right. That's the difference between Simmons and a bunch of other talented writers...A lot of good writers don't have the hubris that leaves me gagging the way Simmons does.
Pot calling the ketle black? So you are admitting that you are pathetic and sad!!! Good for you...I am glad I has such a stonrg influence on your life.
Well, you obviously have some valid argumetns concerning mistakes/stupid generalizations made by Simmons. However, I think you're stretching on quite a few of them. Particularly the Chris Paul/Joakim Noah comparison...I think all Simmons was saying is that Paul fell in the draft and he sees the same thing happening with Noah. Not sure that comment was so wrong to justify writinga term paper comparing the two.
In any event, the reason I'm commenting is that I somewhat sympathize with Simmons. The guy gets hammered for always writing about the same thing (Boston teams & his NFL weekly column). Now he takes a chance and tries something new and he still gets hammered. Not sure why I care, but it just seems like the dude can't win.
Regardless, you do what you gotta do. As you stated in a previous comment, I can't really bash you for taking the time to write this if I voluntarily took the time to read it and comment on it, so to each their own.
I am not going to say this is a waste of time because obviously your comeback will just be that my comment is a waste of time but….this is a waste of time. Did you write this just to get on Deadspin? I don't understand why people hate Bill Simmons so much. You claim you merely hate him because he is a douche, but of all the people to hate - why him? I have no problem with people devoting their time to hating millionaire underperforming athletes and coaches, but why do you hate a guy just because? I find it hard to believe that you aren't one of the guys who hates him because you are jealous.
As someone said, you missed the point of his college basketball column. As someone who obviously reads every word he writes, you should know that in the past he has admitted that he doesn't know/care much about college basketball. So his column was approaching the subject from that perspective.
You rag on him for bragging about Chase Budinger, and then you basically do the same by bragging about your knowledge of Kevin Durant. Guess what - there are those of us not obsessed with stupid college basketball and we didn't really know about Durant before this year.
As Robert said, Bill is going to get bashed either way. Either he's a Boston homer who talks about nothing but the Pats, Celtics and Sox, or he's an uninformed moron trying to talk to us about something else. Take a chill pill.
I think the criticism of you for taking the time to read and critique Bill Simmons is quite valid. If you loathe the guy's writing so much, why read his columns? You know what you're getting into before you read a new column and you obviously get no enjoyment from it. You say you critique Simmons to fill the void left by big media's reluctance to criticize itself. Or do you do it because you're "taking one for the team", so to speak, and pointing out all of his errors for the benefit of people who read his column and sports blogs? I think those people are generally intelligent enough to critique Simmons on their own and form their own opinions. They don't need your help. I mean, if you hated U2, would you go out and buy their new album everytime they put one out? I don't think so.
I don't mean to speak for Chris, but I suspect he still reads Simmons and picks him apart of the very same cathartic reasons you read this and other blogs and pick it apart/insult it in the comments.
you're a fucking douchebag. first of all, its brandan wright. second, tyrus thomas was drafted 4th by portland and traded to the bulls for aldredge who went second. third, your chris paul draft argument is verbatim from what Simmons wrote at the time. fuck dude, you're terrible. i can't finish reading it. i hate deadspin for linking me to you, a no paid, no talent, jealous want to be hack.
please take your blog off the internet. its too bad. everyone is dumber after reading it. seriously, jay mariotti thinks you are a terrible writer. you bring nothing to the table, you only pick at it from afar. i hope you get anal fisted tonight by popeye and his gargantuan forearms
not only are you wrong about your tyrus thomas, brandan wright and chris paul facts - hamden hall would rip rye and brunswick in the fairchester playoffs. im sorry, but this entry was a steaming pile of dog shit.
Nice job Chris, i hadn't checked this space in a while and I didn't realize it was you until i had read a few paragraphs. Your criticisms here are valid, the Paul-Noah stuff may have been a bit much but i know you're a Wake guy so it's cool. I think what a lot of these commenters aren't getting is the reason for all the Simmons hate is just the way he writes now. It's just so smug, he presents everything he says as fact when it's really obvious to longtime readers that he's blowing this stuff out of his ass. Also he used to be really funny, which makes him doubly frustrating now.
p.s. my favorite "he's still in college??" guy is the immortal Anthony Glover from the Frashilla/Jarvis years at St. Johns.
I like Bill Simmons; I think he's a good writer, though he has slipped a bit recently.
So obviously I disagree with you. I think you went overboard: Is his mention of "preseason" that big a deal? The Noah/Paul thing was a pretty loose comparison, I think you're reading too much into it. He listed what games he watched over the weekend? Wow, that is really something to point out.
He wrote "on every network"? Gee, he must not know anything. His line about the Phoenix front office was definitely a joke; why freak out about that? I understand you dislike Simmons, but you tried a little too hard to prove he sucks. Also, you admit he's knowledgable about the NBA: Doesn't it follow that he is at least somewhat qualifed to analize all forms of basketball?
Also, I wonder what you would think of him if he wrote the same exact stuff but was a blogger instead.
WOW! Linked from Deadspin and made it through half of this. You spent more words b*thching then Simmons spent writing. Word of advice...not going to make it very far picking apart every point made in a college basketball article writen by a sports/entertainment writer. Simmons is far more entertaining. See you never again.
I thought the article was great. Simmons needs to be brought back down to Earth--a lot.
He's a smug, spoiled a-hole. He acts like he worked really hard to get where he is, bartending and such, when the fact of the matter is that he was just lazy and refused to wait for his chance to shine like everyone else; then he got lucky. Do you realize that this guy's dad--the same guy he portrays as some louse who can't stay awake during Red Sox games--actually has a Ph.D and is the superintendent of a wealthy school district in western Massachusetts?
Everything about Simmons is phony, and props to you for calling him out on it.
I think that whole "Selling weed to an undercover cop" thing counts as a questionable past. What are you his fucking parole officer? Stop writing a blog and become a lawyer for the ACLU.
ahhh, you are a Wake Forest guy. it makes sense now. cuntbody
"Out of his comfort zone" is just a dumb statement. He's a sports writer who writes from a fans perspective. Everything within sports is his comfort zone. I suppose your comfort zone is bashing columnists who are better than you. Or maybe jealousy and bitterness is your comfort zone. Your column is just as long a Simmon's and totally intolerable. It's not fun reading a 5,000 word rant. Basically, you suck.
Who said Noah's draft stock slipped?
Umm...that would be you. Two whole sentences later.
But easily my favorite, "At the end of the sentence Simmons assures us that he heard about Chase Budinger a while ago to which... No you didn't." Well played sir. Well played.
First time reader (got the link off Deadspin), and that was one of the funniest things I've read in a long, long time. F Bill Simmons.
I should say I liked Simmons and I liked this piece here... but man who has thinner skin Bill Simmons or the author?
No matter, ripping Simmons is like ripping Pearl Jam/REM/(maybe Radiohead depending on their next album)... sure they were better back in the day but they're still better than most out there.
So what that Bill is 100% spot on about everything... are you going to rip Gammons for his first rumor that's untrue? Clayton because some of his info wasn't spot on?
Rip Easterbrook for being a smug igronant jagoff, ESPN for this NASCAR bullshit, or Pasquarelli for writing about Atlanta yet again. I think you're off the mark here, there are more deserving targets out there.
Simmons knows his time is about up. He mentioned it in that SI article last year. The blogosphere continually cracks me up. You guys rip one of your own to shreds in hopes that one day you will have the same opportunity to be ripped to shreds. The air is thick with irony.
I think you know how I feel about Simmons...
In the 3+ years of this blog, no comment has ever made me laugh harder than yours, T. Hardaway.
pawtucket pat - you want some cheese with that whine? Did Simmons dunk on you at Holy Cross? What difference does it make what his Dad does? The guy tried a new approach (Digital City) at getting his voice heard and it paid off in spades. Sure there was luck involved, but to call him "lazy" is ludicrous.
Bill Simmons once wrote that Adam Sandler is not funny anymore because he got so big and famous that he lost touch with whats funny and what isn't. Simmons should take his own advice. He was funny when he was an average joe, writing about average joe topics with some funny pop-culture references mixed in, and not claiming to be an expert, but just a normal guy. But now, he's lost touch with why he used to be so great. I completely agree with everything you say, and thought this blog entry was fantastic.
Simmons now writes as if he's got insight that none of us have and as if he thinks he's doing us a favor by letting us read his insights. He is way out of his element in the college world. I wouldn't mind if he wrote his column from the perspective of a casual fan... but when he pretends he's something he's not - and even subtly brags about his insight - it's just a big turnoff as a reader.
In summary. I hope you write a response article everytime Simmons writes an article. I love this one, and I am glad someone is finally voicing the truth about Sports Guy... He's gone the way of Adam Sandler
At least Simmons college articles are a lot shorter than his others, so he's got that going for him.
But, I just wanted to say, real solid post Chris. I enjoyed myself immensely.
I enjoyed reading this, Chris. Looking forward to the next time the sports douche writes about college hoops. His college basketball insights are about as good as his go-cart driving skills.
Well, anonymous, my ire for Simmons has to do with the fact that he's arrogant, and has always expected things to come to him. I don't know him personally, but am from Boston and familiar with his schtick.
If you read this article (http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/shots/the_boston_sports_guy_revisited_reinvented_and_revealed.php)
it's pretty obvious that the guy is an enormous a-hole. And furthermore, if you check out this link (http://www.easton.k12.ma.us/) you'll notice a Dr. William Simmons, the Superintendent that Simmons makes out to be a louse who can't stay awake for Sox games and is generally a buffoon in Simmons' articles.
I don't care one way or the other, I just think that most everything Simmons writes about oozes phoniness. And that makes him a douchebag, in my opinion. The fact that so many people (or is it one ardent supporter?) come on here to defend him--to suck each other's popsicles, as he might put it--disappoints me.
as much as i'd like to read what you wrote, the formatting on your site is so horrible that i can't even read it without getting a headache. maybe it's cuz im drunk, but still: space between lines is NICE,
Bill wasnt writing a well researched article. He was "blogging" about his observations. He admits he often overlooks things when blogging. Seems the author of this site thinks he is some self-professed know it all and we'll prove it by somehow exposing how Bill Simmons but really just proves how jealous he/she is that are not on the pouplarity level of the sportsguy.
Say what you want about Simmons. Like him or not... I don't care and wouldn't have read your blog without the link from Deadspin. However, if you want to look at least a little credible, proofread your stuff. Typos and wrong words make you appear just as unintelligent as you claim Simmons is.
apologies if this is a duplicate, i did not see my original post show up:
dude i would seriously not waste another second responding to people who write shit like "I don't understand this hypothetical. How would Tyler have 4 fouls? Would they be counting fouls from prior games or something?" or "Pot calling the ketle black? So you are admitting that you are pathetic and sad!!! Good for you...I am glad I has such a stonrg influence on your life."
Just delete those idiotic posts, enforce quality control on your comments section, take the extra time you no longer waste on responding to these buffoons and just use it to write more quality simmons-bashing. Trust me, it will make the world a better place.
Seriously man, that was an awesome post. Simmons writing about College Basketball was an awful idea yet it somehow got through the edit board.
I'm actually not even a fan of his after his NBA All-star game article last year. Dude made it seem like he was an anthropologist for white america reporting on the "black super bowl."
Indeed you just served Mr. Simmons. Served him something fierce...
Simmons jumped the shark after his egomaniacal, self-important bullshit intern-contest series a few years ago. Since then, he's been so full of himself with the non-stop name-dropping and "look at what I get to do" bragging. The guise of your average drinking-buddy-turned-sportswriter has been lifted. This guy's an ESPN fraud.
I like simmons but I couldn't give a sh*t if you trash him or not but it's obvious you are jealous of him. Why don't you try to write something interesting and compelling so that maybe you can be a success. You sound like a whiney little kid. Get over it and do something about it.
I was searching for a subject for a paper I am writing for an English class, and I think Pawtucket Pat has helped me tremendously. My paper will be entitled, "Children of PhD's Are All Douchebags: Why an absentee father earns you more respect from people who live with their parents"
So thanks pawtucket. Oh, that first "article" you linked to? Even more of an impossible read than this blog, and I didn't think that was possible.
"BrEndan Wright, huh?"
At least Simmons gets the guy's name right.
You don't get it. It's page 2. Simmons isn't there to provide incisive college basketball analysis. He's there to provide entertaining reading. I don't think there's any sport where I could say Simmons is a top-ten analyst, but I read everything he writes anyway because he's a good writer and is very funny. Your post smacks of jealousy to me, although I admit that (courtesy of Deadspin) this is my first-ever visit to your site.
it is not healthy to hate, you are a certified hater, you put bucknasty to shame .. you are probably going to die early if you keep hating like this .. spread love not hate
As a regular reader of Chris' sports blog, I am absolutely amazed at the level of trash that apparently reads Deadspin. I would check out Deadspin itself, but if these commentors are any indication of the level of intelligence over there, I'll stick with the Cartoon Network.
I guess it's better to have something to distract you all ... I mean, it would be a lot worse if any of you ever voted.
Chris: thanks for taking the time to clear that up (the Bullets thing). When can we hope for another Evening with Dukie V? It's the blogosphere highlight of the college hoops season.
pierson: Deadspin gets a lot more traffic than blogs like this. You're just seeing the level of contention you get when you put a lot of people together (some mentally stunted, some inebriated -- many who are both) in an anonymous setting the likes of which only the 'net can offer. This is what the Deadspin guys has to put up with on everything they post (or, actually, they don't -- I imagine they ignore their commenters for the sake of continued sanity).
anonymous: Sports Guy, is that you?
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